Flordia Keys Please?
Sep. 26th, 2004 02:30 amSince this came to me awhile ago, it doesn't officaly come off as a insane 2 AM idea. It's a insane 4 PM idea.
The idea is a crossover between MST3K and Portal and is a KTMA explination fix. Scared yet? Well, the idea is that both the KTMA MST3K and the regular MST3K were the same continuty. Then they run into a pocket of omni-dimesional space, literary. The weridnes of the region snapes that continuty into two. One is more like the KTMA MST3K, except nothing changes. For them, its pretty much 1989 for eterity, physicaly. But since they are wedged onto the omidiemsional space the SOL isn't moving at all. They're only movement is caused by the omni-dimensional space moving about in low-Earth orbit. But they can still contact the outside world and people can vist, but they can't leave. (think Gilligan's Island)
The other MST3K is they're somewhat idealized versions of themselves that got knocked out of them, and since they're still somewhat connected to the omni-dimesnional space though their otherselves, the dimesnional radiation still effects them, but weaker. So they CAN die, only they have to want to die or it's very, very diffictult for them to do so. So they can take a walk outside a ship without a space suit or oxygen and so on.
Does any of this make sense? I don't know. I'll have to check it after I get some sleep.
The idea is a crossover between MST3K and Portal and is a KTMA explination fix. Scared yet? Well, the idea is that both the KTMA MST3K and the regular MST3K were the same continuty. Then they run into a pocket of omni-dimesional space, literary. The weridnes of the region snapes that continuty into two. One is more like the KTMA MST3K, except nothing changes. For them, its pretty much 1989 for eterity, physicaly. But since they are wedged onto the omidiemsional space the SOL isn't moving at all. They're only movement is caused by the omni-dimensional space moving about in low-Earth orbit. But they can still contact the outside world and people can vist, but they can't leave. (think Gilligan's Island)
The other MST3K is they're somewhat idealized versions of themselves that got knocked out of them, and since they're still somewhat connected to the omni-dimesnional space though their otherselves, the dimesnional radiation still effects them, but weaker. So they CAN die, only they have to want to die or it's very, very diffictult for them to do so. So they can take a walk outside a ship without a space suit or oxygen and so on.
Does any of this make sense? I don't know. I'll have to check it after I get some sleep.
Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-26 09:16 am (UTC)Sometime between KTMA and season 1, the SOL drifted into a patch of omni-dimensional space. The SOL can't leave here, but in return the omni-dimensional space creates a copy of the SOL. The copy isn't exactly perfect. Rather, it's more than perfect as the result is a slightly advanced version of the SOL and it's crew. The copies and originals have a bond because they are one in the same thing.
Me thinks that you're coming up with a theory that allows you to write a story in which the younger Portal crew to meet up with some sort of the SOL. I believe that this can work, because a similar theory exists already in canon: the dark spectre. If you can make an evil version of a SOL crew member, why not a good version?
Couple of questions:
If vistors can come to the KTMA SOL, won't they have a similar fate? IE, they original versions would stay omni-dimensional space and spit out a superior version?
Do the mads know? Or are they too far gone to notice?
In 1001, it was stated that the SOL was programmed to go boom after 10 years. Is it that it's always 1989 that prevents this from being carried out?
I wanna see a crossover, though. That one script fic you linked to last night was totally spiffy.
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-26 12:14 pm (UTC)If vistors can come to the KTMA SOL, won't they have a similar fate? IE, they original versions would stay omni-dimensional space and spit out a superior version?
Hmmm. I think only certien people can bounce in and out of omnni-dimensional space, since I have to explain how Dave and Val and some other charecters and pop in and out of the Hub. I don't know the why yet, but since the other charecters could travel between planes/dimensional/virtual worlds and one could also travel though time, I think it's a rare talent.
Plus, I think it also has to do with how they get there and so on. Think of the ommni-dimesional space as a sandbar, and a charecter as a boat. If the boat goes too quickly onto the bar, they'll break up. But if they just floated onto the bar, they would be just stuck. So if you were on a ship in orbit, you would break up. But if you were some reason spacewalking, you might one day get away when space-time ripples pushed you out.
In 1001, it was stated that the SOL was programmed to go boom after 10 years. Is it that it's always 1989 that prevents this from being carried out?
Unfoutuntaly, I have to against cannon here. But it's not too much, so it still might work. Instead of Dr. F programing the SOL to explode in 10 years, it's Dr. E that programs the SOL to explode in a few years so Dr. F will have enough time, in Dr. E's eyes, to prove whether or not their idea works. Since Dr. F insn't the type to give up, he would have continuted the experiment as long as he possibly could to see if the hypothosies was right, even though a "No, it's not going to work" is going to look almost excatly like a "It will work, only it hasn't happened yet". So in programing the SOL to explode, Dr. E would have forced Dr. F to eventualy move on.
Or, to actually answer your question, the SOL doesn't blow up in 10 years because Dr. E haddn't programed the SOL to explode yet, I think. I picture this programing to take place a little bit before Dr. E dissapers. But even if he did program the SOL to explode before the launch, it's pretty much the moment in time where the SOL split into two continuties, so it's never 10 years later.
Do the mads know? Or are they too far gone to notice? I think they do notice, but they don't care because they think this splitting wouldn't affect the results much, if at all.
And would you happen to know anymore fandoms that have people on satellites that aren't in the far future or a reality that is not our own?
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-26 02:59 pm (UTC)And would you happen to know anymore fandoms that have people on satellites that aren't in the far future or a reality that is not our own?
Know fandoms in 100 years or under:
Prisoners of Gravity. Canon is from 1989-1994 The most of the main characters live on the satellite Reality 1. The show is very much set in our reality.
Thunderbirds. Canon is set in 2065. Thunderbird 5 is used to pick up distress calls and is also home to John and Alan Tracy. They rotate month to month. The future is slightly idealized, but pretty much our world.
Planetes, AKA the anime/manga that 'Hacker should be watching/reading. The canon is set around 2075, which may seem a little far off. The show follows a team who lives in a space station and are basically a team of space garbage (wo)men. Their job is to clean up the debris from old satellites, experiments, etc in that people in our time have left in Earth's orbit.
There's also a ton of space station/satellite dwellers in sci-fi novels, but most of those are fairly far off.
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-26 06:12 pm (UTC)And the satellite things should work. I tried making a list ealier and only got as far as Reality One, the Hub, and nearly gave myself an aneysum by thinking just how many satellites were in MST3K: two, three, or four? Plus, you know, the ISS and Mir. Now I just gotta pad out the list with a Chinese sattlite, and figute out how many urben legend Russian satellites I want to add to get a good earth orbit neighborhood...
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-26 08:33 pm (UTC)At Tim Hortons, the first donut shop in SPAAAAAAACE! [/random]
and nearly gave myself an aneysum by thinking just how many satellites were in MST3K: two, three, or four?
Well, there's the SOL, Soviet 18 (Solvei Droplei's satellite), Aaron Spelling's house (it's in Earth's orbit)... and that's all I think of offhand.
Plus, you know, the ISS and Mir.
I know that's already your fandom, so it's a given.
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-27 04:41 am (UTC)If the KTMA SOL was diffrent than the regular SOL, that's two. Plus, was Soviet 18 the same guy as the anynomus Russian in the KTMA era who's also watching bad movies? I think so, if just for the fact that they're played by diffrent people.
I know that's already your fandom, so it's a given.
Cosmology as one of my fandoms? Well, the only astronaunt I've ever meet WAS named Mike Nelson...
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-27 10:07 pm (UTC)There was a Russian in KTMA? The only one I know of was the one from season two. Is you want to nitpick about the versions of the SOL, there would also be the version from the KTMA pilot. That SOL was designed by Joel.
Cosmology as one of my fandoms? Well, the only astronaunt I've ever meet WAS named Mike Nelson.
Not kidding? I thought you fangirled over space-related things, unless I have you confused with someone else.
Re: Trying to make sense...
Date: 2004-09-28 03:58 pm (UTC)Not kidding? I thought you fangirled over space-related things, unless I have you confused with someone else.
Nope, not kidding. The guys name was indeed Mike Nelson. I got his autograph and my picture taken with him and laughed histericaly when I compared Astronaut Mike and Lab Rat Mike.
It's just I never thought Cosmology as a fandom before. To me, fandom is a particualr term that belongs only to book/movie/tv show hobbies. Even though I use fangirl across everything.